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bmcsheehy
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 991 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for trying. _________________ Bill
High Performance Sidecaring... ...There is nothing "HACKED" about it.
2006 ZX-14 / HANNIGAN HP.
2011 Concourse / California Friendship III.
2016 Suzuki Bandit 1250s
1936 Ford Fordoor Humpback
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swaybar2002
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 380 Location: Central Pa.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone tried a Falken Ziex ZE-512 Tire. 195.50R15? Thinking of trying this on the front. Would it be beeter to go with a 55 series? Why? Input??
Claude
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swaybar2002
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 380 Location: Central Pa.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Powersl@ve wrote: | bmcsheehy wrote: | I use them because they were recommended to me. They are great tires in the rain. they are relatively inexpensive. The compound is hard enough to slide around corner but soft enough to stick to the road. Check out the tread pattern, they look cool too.
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I had 'm on my previous rig.
Vredestein Sportrac II I had... very soft compound and a lot of grip but wear very fast.
frontwheel lasted an eternity..
sidecarwheel did about 4.000...
and the rearwheel did 3.000 km and was totaly gone, a complete slick tire.
So because of the grip my favorite setup is a Sportrac II in front (less understeer)
And michelins rear end sicecarwheel, type Pilot Exalto: great compromise in grip / wear / rain.
Front 185/60R14 at 2.2 bar
Side 185/60R14 at 2.4 bar
Rear 195/60R14 at 2.8 bar
This is in dry conditions, in the wet 0.5 bar lesser each tire.
I will start with my new rig in this setup... |
What does 2.2 bar or 2.4 bar or 0.5 bar mean?
Help,
Claude, ignorant in the hills of Pa. |
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zentime
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:53 am Post subject: |
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bar is the metric psi. I have a converter at work I can send you on Monday. As far as the tire goes, I've never used them so I can't offer an opinion but if you go to tire rack and compare it to something you know, that would be a good start. It looks to be a nice tire. I see no reason not to use a 50 series tire. You sure won't get much side wall flex with it. With the stuff I'm doing the 195 is a bit wide and tends to be a bit of a tight fit. In your case, I don't think you have a space problem on the rear and on the front you can design for it. I don't think it would fit in the fender I'm using _________________ CBR1100XX/EZS
1973 MotoGuzzi V7sport
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swaybar2002
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 380 Location: Central Pa.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:10 am Post subject: |
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zentime wrote: | bar is the metric psi. I have a converter at work I can send you on Monday. As far as the tire goes, I've never used them so I can't offer an opinion but if you go to tire rack and compare it to something you know, that would be a good start. It looks to be a nice tire. I see no reason not to use a 50 series tire. You sure won't get much side wall flex with it. With the stuff I'm doing the 195 is a bit wide and tends to be a bit of a tight fit. In your case, I don't think you have a space problem on the rear and on the front you can design for it. I don't think it would fit in the fender I'm using |
I was planning on using this tire on the front an da 205 on the rear. The reason for the 50 series was to try and cut down on sidewall flex. Is this the right thinking for the front? It still has a one ply sidewall. It is also a 22" diameter instead of the 23".
You are right I have no real clearance problem that canno tbe addresses in the front. The fender being used will be a fiberglass one that was made by using a metal boat trailer fender for a mold.
In the rear there is an issue with having to re-route the exhaust anyhow but that will be dealt with.
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bruce_in_pa18015
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 99 Location: Bethlehem, PA. USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | What does 2.2 bar or 2.4 bar or 0.5 bar mean?
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Claude, ignorant in the hills of Pa. |
Claude,
1 bar = 14.50377 p.s.i.
2.2 bar = 31.9p.s.i.
2.4 bar = 34.8 p.s.i.
2.8 bar = 40.6 p.s.i.
.5 bar = 7.2 p.s.i.
So, if you visit 2.2 bars in an evening, the alcohol beverages consumed, will develope 31.9 p.s.i. of pressure in the lower intestinal track. Visit 2.4 bars and develope 34.8p.s.i., etc., etc. One fart relieves .5 bar or 7.2 p.s.i. of pressure. Hope this makes everything perfectly clear.
Bruce. _________________ My wife said she is going to leave me if I buy another motorcycle. I'm sure going to miss her helping me load the trailer.
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swaybar2002
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 380 Location: Central Pa.
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:15 am Post subject: |
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bruce_in_pa18015 wrote: | Quote: | What does 2.2 bar or 2.4 bar or 0.5 bar mean?
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Claude, ignorant in the hills of Pa. |
Claude,
1 bar = 14.50377 p.s.i.
2.2 bar = 31.9p.s.i.
2.4 bar = 34.8 p.s.i.
2.8 bar = 40.6 p.s.i.
.5 bar = 7.2 p.s.i.
So, if you visit 2.2 bars in an evening, the alcohol beverages consumed, will develope 31.9 p.s.i. of pressure in the lower intestinal track. Visit 2.4 bars and develope 34.8p.s.i., etc., etc. One fart relieves .5 bar or 7.2 p.s.i. of pressure. Hope this makes everything perfectly clear.
Bruce. |
Bruce,
Now THAT makes sense. Simple proven facts win out again.
Claude |
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sidebike
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 167 Location: Cabot Trail, Cape Breton Island Nova Scotia
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: Tire Pressure T-Rex |
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Here is a picture of Doug Miller's New Trike a T-Rex.
The owner's manual says 16 p.s.i. in all 3 wheels _________________ Nostalgia' s nice but, nothing beats Performance.
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TimKillmeyer
Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I didn't have time to get the K12RS/ARMEC rig its state inspection before I went to the RonDeeVoo so I took it last week. (Inspection was up in July) Since I just had the 12,000 mile service done I knew it was in good shape but was a little concerned about the rear tire.
My concerns were well founded because, since the wear bars were showing, it didn't pass.
So I've been looking around for tires. The tire coming off is a Michelin Energy 185-55-15. I think it is H rated. Michelin doesn't even list this tire anymore.
To make a long story short, the only three tires I could find in this size are the Vredestiens, Bridgestone Potenza RE040, and the Yokohama ADVAN A043.
The Vredesteins, while considered to have good traction, have been noted in this thread to be somewhat soft and don't last very long. They cost $130.
The Bridgestones got terrible reviews from the searches I did online. They cost $135
So I'm going to go with the Yokohama at $92. It'll be here Wednesday.
BTW, that size is stock on the Toyota MR2 Spyder, the only car that uses it.
I was told that a 205-50-15 would be about the same height and only slightly wider, but I'm not sure I could get a wider tire in there.
Tim _________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming-- WOW--What a Ride! |
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JayBoy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 234 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | The Vredesteins, while considered to have good traction, have been noted in this thread to be somewhat soft and don't last very long. They cost $130.
So I'm going to go with the Yokohama at $92. |
Come on! Where is that High Performance attitude? You must be hanging out with that Ural crowd again!
What would be cool is a set of slicks! Do they make those in our size? |
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JayBoy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 234 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Oops looks like I got the "quotes" in the wrong place. |
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bmcsheehy
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 991 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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JayBoy wrote: | Oops looks like I got the "quotes" in the wrong place. |
Did I fix it correctly? _________________ Bill
High Performance Sidecaring... ...There is nothing "HACKED" about it.
2006 ZX-14 / HANNIGAN HP.
2011 Concourse / California Friendship III.
2016 Suzuki Bandit 1250s
1936 Ford Fordoor Humpback
www.Yankee-Engineering.com
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JayBoy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 234 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks...except what is a qrong? |
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TimKillmeyer
Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Geez, I missed that whole conversation. grong?
You're probably right, Jay, but...3000 miles? I would have to put four of them on every year.
It was easy enough to get the wheel off and they only charged me eight bucks to mount it, maybe I'll get a Vredestein just for HPS specific gatherings, eh?
BTW, it's hard to tell from the pics, but the center of that Yokohama does look like a slick with two deep grooves cut in it. Very few cross-ways water channels.
Also, I ordered it at 2:15 yesterday afternoon and it was at my door by 2:00 THIS afternoon! I had it mounted and back on the bike in time to take Mike C. for a tour of the 'Burgh this evening.
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JayBoy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 234 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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3000 miles would be great! The Yoko's that RDS sent wore in 2500. Well actually the rear wore out in 2500, the sidecar was bald after MV this year and I replaced the front as a matter of principal and saved the rubber for a spare.
I don't put 12,000 miles a year on mine though. Wish I could! |
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