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bmcsheehy
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 991 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: Re: long swing arm |
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lemon wrote: | Hi everyone (Newby to this whole scene and a futureHPS owner).I have been very interested and inspired by this project and the whole site thinking about it.
I just have one (of several) Questions to ask ,, what is the thinking behind the long swing arm? as opposed to the shorter types fitted to rigs like bmcsheehy's (top pictures by the way, very informative)
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Welcome Lemon
Thanks for looking.
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High Performance Sidecaring... ...There is nothing "HACKED" about it.
2006 ZX-14 / HANNIGAN HP.
2011 Concourse / California Friendship III.
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docmike
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 630 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I just have one (of several) Questions to ask ,, what is the thinking behind the long swing arm? as opposed to the shorter types fitted to rigs like bmcsheehy's (top pictures by the way, very informative)
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Liam
Two reason's really,
First was the idea that there would be less change in camber as the front suspension moves with a long swingarm than with a short arm.
Second with the existing subframe that was on the rig the long arm seemed easier to fabricate (easy being a relative term)
Mike
(plus I didn't want it to look to much like bmcsheehy's) |
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bmcsheehy
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 991 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ Bill
High Performance Sidecaring... ...There is nothing "HACKED" about it.
2006 ZX-14 / HANNIGAN HP.
2011 Concourse / California Friendship III.
2016 Suzuki Bandit 1250s
1936 Ford Fordoor Humpback
www.Yankee-Engineering.com |
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swaybar2002
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 380 Location: Central Pa.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:55 am Post subject: |
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castor ,castor, castor...or is that caster? Yes , maybe, caster caster caster.... not camber. Does anyone here gag except me when you say 'castor oil' out loud.
Back to work...cya... _________________ Claude Stanley
Founder: Internet Sidecar Owners Klub
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCT/
2007
I.S.O.K Sidecar RON-DEE-VOO III ..
First full weekend in August!! Thursday through Sunday!!
Weikert, Pa ..more details coming |
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docmike
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 630 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Oops,,caster, not camber _________________ Mike Currin
93 BMW K1100RS / EML Speed 2000
89 Honda GB 500 (6,700 miles, all original except tires)
67 Triumph 650 chopper
92 Suzuki GS500 (eldest son) |
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docmike
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 630 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:42 am Post subject: |
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It's Alive
About 7:00 PM today went for the first test drive.
Need a stiffer spring in the front shock. Added about an inch of preload.
Maybe a lighter spring on the sidecar, and less height.
Haven't touched any of the adjustments on the shocks.
The toe in is set to,,,,,,,,something,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Caster is about in the middle.
It works surprising well
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Dar
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 349 Location: Ballston Spa, NY
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Congratulations!!
Isn't it great getting back on the road again? And even having it work pretty well, to boot!
Guess this answers Larry's question from back in April:
Quote: | Very nice, Doc! When do you anticipate you'll be road-testing? |
Hope to see your rig in person (so to speak) one of these days.
Beautiful weather here in the Northeast this weekend - got out today myself for my first long , just for fun, ride since returning from Maggie Valley in June.
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zentime
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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docmike wrote: | It's Alive
About 7:00 PM today went for the first test drive.
Need a stiffer spring in the front shock. Added about an inch of preload.
Maybe a lighter spring on the sidecar, and less height.
Haven't touched any of the adjustments on the shocks.
The toe in is set to,,,,,,,,something,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Caster is about in the middle.
It works surprising well
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docmike
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 630 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Pictures before too long,
Yesterday I was more intrested in riding than photographing,
I rode it to work this morning, will try and get away to get it inspected at lunch, the NC inspection sticker is still on the old front end.
_________________ Mike Currin
93 BMW K1100RS / EML Speed 2000
89 Honda GB 500 (6,700 miles, all original except tires)
67 Triumph 650 chopper
92 Suzuki GS500 (eldest son) |
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zentime
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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you of course realize this thread has the higest post count and most views |
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docmike
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 630 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Now that it runs its probably time to kill the thread. _________________ Mike Currin
93 BMW K1100RS / EML Speed 2000
89 Honda GB 500 (6,700 miles, all original except tires)
67 Triumph 650 chopper
92 Suzuki GS500 (eldest son) |
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