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docmike



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: K1100 upgrades Reply with quote

A few changes in the works

First a new rear wheel and tire.



Then some more brakes on the sidecar wheel






stay tuned
more to come
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice looking wheel. Wink
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legalr



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bmcsheehy wrote:
nice looking wheel. Wink


Sure is! Deja vu? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought you guys would like it, Larry and I probably should park close to each other or we'll confuse the rigs Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

docmike wrote:
Thought you guys would like it, Larry and I probably should park close to each other or we'll confuse the rigs Laughing Laughing Laughing


Sounds like a plan! Motorcycle Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

things to make you say hmmmmmmmmm?????
















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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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things to make you say hmmmmmmmmm?????



Very nice, Doc! When do you anticipate you'll be road-testing? Question

Just out of curiosity, what it the maximum width of the footprint of your rig from outside of the sidecar tire to the left side of the bike tires?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,
Nice machine work.
Those wheels look awesome on your rig.
Can't wait to see the finished product.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only echo all the "nice work" and "looks good" comments of others, but I do have a couple of questions about the brakes on the sidecar. First, is the sidecar brake linked to the front or rear bike brake,(what is the generally accepted practice?); second, are 2 calipers needed or is the second one a bit of overdesign? I have 2 calipers on one disc on the front wheel of my Hannigan Bandito and I wonder about the heat generated from two calipers heating the disc in heavy braking situations i.e twisty mountain roads.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dar wrote:
I can only echo all the "nice work" and "looks good" comments of others, but I do have a couple of questions about the brakes on the sidecar. First, is the sidecar brake linked to the front or rear bike brake,(what is the generally accepted practice?); second, are 2 calipers needed or is the second one a bit of overdesign? I have 2 calipers on one disc on the front wheel of my Hannigan Bandito and I wonder about the heat generated from two calipers heating the disc in heavy braking situations i.e twisty mountain roads.


Hello David,
I'm not the one to ask technical questions but there are plenty of good technical guys in this forum who can supply the answers you seek. I noticed you are from Ballston Spa, NY. I have my rigs serviced at Heid's in Johnsburg, NY just a stone's throw from you.

Perhaps we can do a few rides together this summer?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dar wrote:
... I have 2 calipers on one disc on the front wheel of my Hannigan Bandito and I wonder about the heat generated from two calipers heating the disc in heavy braking situations i.e twisty mountain roads.


Hello David,
Have you had any problems with the brakes heating up?
I have had slight problems with mine under extreme conditions.
To help with the problem, I try to use the engine more for both acceleration and deceleration.
Motorcycle Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dar asks

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First, is the sidecar brake linked to the front or rear bike brake,(what is the generally accepted practice?); second, are 2 calipers needed or is the second one a bit of overdesign?


Its probably over design, and not the first time I've been accused of that. One caliper will be hooked to the fornt brake and one to the rear.

bmcsheehy says

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Nice machine work.


I can take NO CREDIT for the machine work, just wanted to make that clear and thank all that have had a hand in this.


legalr asks

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Just out of curiosity, what it the maximum width of the footprint of your rig from outside of the sidecar tire to the left side of the bike tires?


I did measure it, but don't recall right now. It's about as wide as my Dodge pickup (full size)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doc replied that his EML/BMW K1100 was,
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...about as wide as my Dodge pickup (full size)

I learned that 'rule of thumb' in Seattle, WA parking my Summit rig curbside. If I just imagined that I was driving a full size PU and I wouldn't scuff the tires on the curb. Moron Alert
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill asked
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Have you had any problems with the brakes heating up?


No, I have not experienced any problems with the brakes on the Bandito yet, but I have not really been riding under "extreme conditions" yet, either. Just was wondering about having all the calipers on half the rotors, you've got a lot less area to dissipate the heat generated. And it's stuck inside of this big car wheel, not out in the airstream like the original dual discs were (before sidecar modifications). Your comments make me believe that my thoughts might have some relation to reality. Some sort of air scoop might help the braking situation, while probably adding a lot more air drag all the rest of the time....

Doc said
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Its probably over design, and not the first time I've been accused of that. One caliper will be hooked to the fornt brake and one to the rear.


Aside from the question of heat, I certainly can see the advantage of engaging the sidecar brake with either the front or rear bike brake, I imagine it will minimize the steering to the left when engaging only the front brake. Any change in the master cylinder?
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:50 pm    Post subject: K1100 upgrades Reply with quote

docmike wrote:
things to make you say hmmmmmmmmm?????


So what's been going on lately with your upgrade project? Question

Got any more nice pics for us? Motorcycle Happy
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