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bmcsheehy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for trying.
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swaybar2002



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone tried a Falken Ziex ZE-512 Tire. 195.50R15? Thinking of trying this on the front. Would it be beeter to go with a 55 series? Why? Input??
Claude

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Powersl@ve wrote:
bmcsheehy wrote:
I use them because they were recommended to me. They are great tires in the rain. they are relatively inexpensive. The compound is hard enough to slide around corner but soft enough to stick to the road. Check out the tread pattern, they look cool too.




I had 'm on my previous rig.
Vredestein Sportrac II I had... very soft compound and a lot of grip but wear very fast.

frontwheel lasted an eternity..
sidecarwheel did about 4.000...
and the rearwheel did 3.000 km and was totaly gone, a complete slick tire.

So because of the grip my favorite setup is a Sportrac II in front (less understeer)
And michelins rear end sicecarwheel, type Pilot Exalto: great compromise in grip / wear / rain.

Front 185/60R14 at 2.2 bar
Side 185/60R14 at 2.4 bar
Rear 195/60R14 at 2.8 bar

This is in dry conditions, in the wet 0.5 bar lesser each tire.
I will start with my new rig in this setup...


What does 2.2 bar or 2.4 bar or 0.5 bar mean?
Help,
Claude, ignorant in the hills of Pa.
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zentime



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bar is the metric psi. I have a converter at work I can send you on Monday. As far as the tire goes, I've never used them so I can't offer an opinion but if you go to tire rack and compare it to something you know, that would be a good start. It looks to be a nice tire. I see no reason not to use a 50 series tire. You sure won't get much side wall flex with it. With the stuff I'm doing the 195 is a bit wide and tends to be a bit of a tight fit. In your case, I don't think you have a space problem on the rear and on the front you can design for it. I don't think it would fit in the fender I'm using
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swaybar2002



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zentime wrote:
bar is the metric psi. I have a converter at work I can send you on Monday. As far as the tire goes, I've never used them so I can't offer an opinion but if you go to tire rack and compare it to something you know, that would be a good start. It looks to be a nice tire. I see no reason not to use a 50 series tire. You sure won't get much side wall flex with it. With the stuff I'm doing the 195 is a bit wide and tends to be a bit of a tight fit. In your case, I don't think you have a space problem on the rear and on the front you can design for it. I don't think it would fit in the fender I'm using


I was planning on using this tire on the front an da 205 on the rear. The reason for the 50 series was to try and cut down on sidewall flex. Is this the right thinking for the front? It still has a one ply sidewall. It is also a 22" diameter instead of the 23".
You are right I have no real clearance problem that canno tbe addresses in the front. The fender being used will be a fiberglass one that was made by using a metal boat trailer fender for a mold.
In the rear there is an issue with having to re-route the exhaust anyhow but that will be dealt with.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What does 2.2 bar or 2.4 bar or 0.5 bar mean?
Help,
Claude, ignorant in the hills of Pa.



Claude,

1 bar = 14.50377 p.s.i.

2.2 bar = 31.9p.s.i.
2.4 bar = 34.8 p.s.i.
2.8 bar = 40.6 p.s.i.
.5 bar = 7.2 p.s.i.

So, if you visit 2.2 bars in an evening, the alcohol beverages consumed, will develope 31.9 p.s.i. of pressure in the lower intestinal track. Visit 2.4 bars and develope 34.8p.s.i., etc., etc. One fart relieves .5 bar or 7.2 p.s.i. of pressure. Hope this makes everything perfectly clear. Big Grin

Bruce.
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swaybar2002



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruce_in_pa18015 wrote:
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What does 2.2 bar or 2.4 bar or 0.5 bar mean?
Help,
Claude, ignorant in the hills of Pa.



Claude,

1 bar = 14.50377 p.s.i.

2.2 bar = 31.9p.s.i.
2.4 bar = 34.8 p.s.i.
2.8 bar = 40.6 p.s.i.
.5 bar = 7.2 p.s.i.

So, if you visit 2.2 bars in an evening, the alcohol beverages consumed, will develope 31.9 p.s.i. of pressure in the lower intestinal track. Visit 2.4 bars and develope 34.8p.s.i., etc., etc. One fart relieves .5 bar or 7.2 p.s.i. of pressure. Hope this makes everything perfectly clear. Big Grin

Bruce.


Bruce,
Now THAT makes sense. Simple proven facts win out again.
Claude Laughing
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sidebike



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:50 am    Post subject: Tire Pressure T-Rex Reply with quote



Here is a picture of Doug Miller's New Trike a T-Rex.
The owner's manual says 16 p.s.i. in all 3 wheels
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TimKillmeyer



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I didn't have time to get the K12RS/ARMEC rig its state inspection before I went to the RonDeeVoo so I took it last week. (Inspection was up in July) Since I just had the 12,000 mile service done I knew it was in good shape but was a little concerned about the rear tire.

My concerns were well founded because, since the wear bars were showing, it didn't pass.

So I've been looking around for tires. The tire coming off is a Michelin Energy 185-55-15. I think it is H rated. Michelin doesn't even list this tire anymore.

To make a long story short, the only three tires I could find in this size are the Vredestiens, Bridgestone Potenza RE040, and the Yokohama ADVAN A043.

The Vredesteins, while considered to have good traction, have been noted in this thread to be somewhat soft and don't last very long. They cost $130.

The Bridgestones got terrible reviews from the searches I did online. They cost $135

So I'm going to go with the Yokohama at $92. It'll be here Wednesday.



BTW, that size is stock on the Toyota MR2 Spyder, the only car that uses it.

I was told that a 205-50-15 would be about the same height and only slightly wider, but I'm not sure I could get a wider tire in there.

Tim
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Vredesteins, while considered to have good traction, have been noted in this thread to be somewhat soft and don't last very long. They cost $130.
So I'm going to go with the Yokohama at $92.


Come on! Where is that High Performance attitude? You must be hanging out with that Ural crowd again! Big Grin
What would be cool is a set of slicks! Do they make those in our size? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops looks like I got the "quotes" in the wrong place. Embarassed
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bmcsheehy



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JayBoy wrote:
Oops looks like I got the "quotes" in the wrong place. Embarassed

Did I fix it correctly?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks...except what is a qrong?
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TimKillmeyer



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez, I missed that whole conversation. grong?

You're probably right, Jay, but...3000 miles? I would have to put four of them on every year.

It was easy enough to get the wheel off and they only charged me eight bucks to mount it, maybe I'll get a Vredestein just for HPS specific gatherings, eh?

BTW, it's hard to tell from the pics, but the center of that Yokohama does look like a slick with two deep grooves cut in it. Very few cross-ways water channels.


Also, I ordered it at 2:15 yesterday afternoon and it was at my door by 2:00 THIS afternoon! I had it mounted and back on the bike in time to take Mike C. for a tour of the 'Burgh this evening.

Tim
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3000 miles would be great! The Yoko's that RDS sent wore in 2500. Well actually the rear wore out in 2500, the sidecar was bald after MV this year and I replaced the front as a matter of principal and saved the rubber for a spare. Big Grin

I don't put 12,000 miles a year on mine though. Wish I could! Twisted Evil
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