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bmcsheehy
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 991 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: Mathematical Equation |
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I was having a discussion with someone at the RonDeeVoo about lead on a sidecar.
Some people say there is a mathematical equation on the location of the sidecar wheel.
Can some one explain this or show me how this is?
Also on rigs with CHS and automotive tires, does this apply?
_________________ Bill
High Performance Sidecaring... ...There is nothing "HACKED" about it.
2006 ZX-14 / HANNIGAN HP.
2011 Concourse / California Friendship III.
2016 Suzuki Bandit 1250s
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swaybar2002
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 380 Location: Central Pa.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Bill M. Wrote:
>>I was having a discussion with someone at the RonDeeVoo about lead on a sidecar.
Some people say there is a mathematical equation on the location of the sidecar wheel. <<
It was good to see you at the RON DEE VOO. Wish we could have gotten together more.
As far as your question goes I have an idea who you may have spoken to and my opinion, for what it is worth, is that there are some basic guidelines related to what more lead or less lead will do for or against you but I do not feel there is a mathematical formula that will cover all bases
for all rigs. _________________ Claude Stanley
Founder: Internet Sidecar Owners Klub
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCT/
2007
I.S.O.K Sidecar RON-DEE-VOO III ..
First full weekend in August!! Thursday through Sunday!!
Weikert, Pa ..more details coming |
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VW56bug
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Turner, OR USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject: Formulas |
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I tried loading up an algorithm as an excel file, with the variables being weight, track width, wheelbase, etc. , when I was building my leaner rig.
There's just too many variables to deal with, ground clearance, weight aloft, degree of lean available(handlebar clearance), it goes on and on.
Because every bike is different, you can't formulate a "one size fits all"
algorithm to apply everywhere. It has to be done separately for each bike, and sidecar combo. I'm sure there are "experts" who will disagree, but I'd need to see their workups before I'd believe anything.
In the end, I just cut & tried till it came out right. Heh.........who knew?
-Tim Miller
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bmcsheehy
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 991 Location: Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Formulas |
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VW56bug wrote: | I tried loading up an algorithm as an excel file, with the variables being weight, track width, wheelbase, etc. , when I was building my leaner rig.
There's just too many variables to deal with, ground clearance, weight aloft, degree of lean available(handlebar clearance), it goes on and on.
Because every bike is different, you can't formulate a "one size fits all"
algorithm to apply everywhere. It has to be done separately for each bike, and sidecar combo. I'm sure there are "experts" who will disagree, but I'd need to see their workups before I'd believe anything.
In the end, I just cut & tried till it came out right. Heh.........who knew?
-Tim Miller
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Hey Tim,
I'm with you.
That's why I posted this.
Not that I disagree with the Idea there might be a mathematical equation or a formula to decide where the sidecar wheel goes.
If there was one I would like to see it, and the principal behind it.
_________________ Bill
High Performance Sidecaring... ...There is nothing "HACKED" about it.
2006 ZX-14 / HANNIGAN HP.
2011 Concourse / California Friendship III.
2016 Suzuki Bandit 1250s
1936 Ford Fordoor Humpback
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