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bmcsheehy



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Mathematical Equation Reply with quote

I was having a discussion with someone at the RonDeeVoo about lead on a sidecar.
Some people say there is a mathematical equation on the location of the sidecar wheel.
Can some one explain this or show me how this is? Question
Also on rigs with CHS and automotive tires, does this apply?
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swaybar2002



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill M. Wrote:
>>I was having a discussion with someone at the RonDeeVoo about lead on a sidecar.
Some people say there is a mathematical equation on the location of the sidecar wheel. <<

It was good to see you at the RON DEE VOO. Wish we could have gotten together more.
As far as your question goes I have an idea who you may have spoken to and my opinion, for what it is worth, is that there are some basic guidelines related to what more lead or less lead will do for or against you but I do not feel there is a mathematical formula that will cover all bases
for all rigs.
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VW56bug



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: Formulas Reply with quote

I tried loading up an algorithm as an excel file, with the variables being weight, track width, wheelbase, etc. , when I was building my leaner rig.

There's just too many variables to deal with, ground clearance, weight aloft, degree of lean available(handlebar clearance), it goes on and on.

Because every bike is different, you can't formulate a "one size fits all"
algorithm to apply everywhere. It has to be done separately for each bike, and sidecar combo. I'm sure there are "experts" who will disagree, but I'd need to see their workups before I'd believe anything.

In the end, I just cut & tried till it came out right. Heh.........who knew?

-Tim Miller
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bmcsheehy



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Formulas Reply with quote

VW56bug wrote:
I tried loading up an algorithm as an excel file, with the variables being weight, track width, wheelbase, etc. , when I was building my leaner rig.

There's just too many variables to deal with, ground clearance, weight aloft, degree of lean available(handlebar clearance), it goes on and on.

Because every bike is different, you can't formulate a "one size fits all"
algorithm to apply everywhere. It has to be done separately for each bike, and sidecar combo. I'm sure there are "experts" who will disagree, but I'd need to see their workups before I'd believe anything.

In the end, I just cut & tried till it came out right. Heh.........who knew?

-Tim Miller
Turner, OR


Hey Tim,
I'm with you.
That's why I posted this.
Not that I disagree with the Idea there might be a mathematical equation or a formula to decide where the sidecar wheel goes.
If there was one I would like to see it, and the principal behind it.
Big Grin Buddies
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